Ableton Suite

Live 8.2.5 introduces compatibility with Mac OS X 10.7 Lion

Known issue: As of 10.7, Java is no longer installed by default on Mac OS X. In addition, there is a bug that can cause applications that require Java to crash. This affects Max for Live; when a user tries to open a M4L device that requires Java, first Max, and then Live, will crash. We have worked on a fix for this on our side, which is available in this latest build, but the fix is not yet available in Max. Cycling '74 will release a Max update shortly with the fix. For now, users with Max for Live should install Java separately if it is required by their devices, to avoid the crash.

Improvements and feature changes

MIDI sync has been improved when Live is a MIDI clock slave
Imported tracks (from the Live Browser) now route to Master if their original output routing can't be resolved, instead of "Sends Only."
The default for the Takeover mode in the MIDI Preferences is now Value Scaling instead of Pick-up.
We now prevent choosing the root of the system hard drive (or the Windows system folders on Windows machines) as the third-party plugin location. Doing that would crash Live on startup, because these folders contain files that are interpreted as third-party plugins.

Bugfixes

Live would freeze and crash on OS X Lion when sending MIDI data to any MIDI port.
Under certain conditions, quantizing transient markers could lead to overlapping warp markers, which would cause various problems when editing the warp marker or its segment BPM value.
Under certain conditions, the "Transient"-based Beats warp mode would play double attacks. With this bug fixed, it is possible that some clips sound different.
Excluding a plug-in from the scan process didn't work if Live crashed because of the first scanned plug-in, after enabling the VST plug-in source via Live's Preferences (Mac only).
Rendering a Live Set containing an EQ3 at sample rates below 44.1 KHz would result in an audio file containing pure silence.
Fixed a crash when loading a Live 7 Set with invalid clip color information in Live 8.
Detail view appeared empty after Hot-Swapping an unfolded Rack, because devices were scrolled out of view.
Infinitely long clips would be created if rewinding the global transport while making a new recording.
Track names could be incorrectly displayed when unfolding a Live set in the Live Browser. This only happened for "automatic names" that tracks get from the Instrument they contain. For Live Sets saved in earlier versions, names of tracks containing Racks, Max for Live devices or third-party plugins may still look wrong. Re-saving the Sets will fix the problem.
Some Operator presets could sound different when loading them, and then creating or moving a track.
The Frontier Design Tranzport was not getting updated when switching tracks.
The green zoom button was sometimes disabled when using Live with Mac OS X.
Resuming a clip in Session view while the track is armed but OVR is OFF could result in the clip not playing its notes.
Toggling OVR ON and OFF doesn't create an UNDO step anymore
Certain Library content wasn't usable for Live Intro users since version 8.2.
Enabling a clip loop via the loop switch or the Set Loop Length button would sometimes stop the clip.
Fixed a crash which could occur when hot-swapping a certain Drum Rack pad.
Eleven additional crashes were also fixed.

Improvements and feature changes

* Added bank names for Amp instant mapping, which in turn fixes a problem with the Axiom DirectLink control surface.
* Fixed problems with the Mbox2 related to non-integer sample rates.
* Added control surface support for Akai Professional LPD8.
* From now on, betas will ask to check for updates only once a week, and starting a week after first run.
* the "Peek" button on the Axiom Pro now works as a momentary control

Max for Live improvements and feature changes

(Note: Most of these changes require an update to the latest version of Max, which is available from http://cycling74.com/downloads/)

* Devices inside Racks can now be accessed via the Max for Live API
* Return tracks can now be observed via the Max for Live API

Live devices and parameters can now be much more easily mapped to controls in Max devices. Devices can safely be moved within a Live Set without breaking any existing mappings. Also, devices and Sets can be saved and loaded without breaking existing mappings. The following changes make this possible:

* There is now a simple way to observe the selected parameter via the Max for Live API, using "live.path live_set view selected_parameter." This can be used, for example, to build a custom "map mode" to quickly map parameters in your Live Set to controls in a Max device.
* Live objects like tracks, clips or parameters retain their identity (id nn) during operations like move, save/restore, cut/paste, delete/undo, the identity is global and can be communicated via Max's Send and Receive objects.
* live.object, live.observer and live.remote~ are now able to remember their target objects when Live sets or presets are saved and restored or when objects are moved within the Live set.
* Ableton protected samples can now be used in Max for Live device, via the Live.drop object
* fixed a bug where clip slots would lose their id on moving a clip
* fixed navigating and observing control surfaces via the LiveAPI
* Repeatedly calling "goto control_surfaces" on a live.path object was producing a different id each time
* Fixed a crash that occurred when deleting a Rack containing a Max for Live device, where a Remote~ was controlling one of the Macro knobs, and then Undoing the delete action
* Navigating the Live Object Model is about two times faster
* Fixed a crash that occurred when moving tracks that contained automated Max for Live devices
* Fixed a crash that occurred when replacing one Max for Live device with another if certain modulations existed
* If a native Ableton device has parameters that are mapped to a Max for Live device, the mappings will be preserved after hot-swapping the Ableton device
* The Track/Chain Activator and Song Tempo are now accessible via the "selected_parameter" property and their path can be queried
* "live_app" and "live_app view" can now be persistent in the Max for Live API
* Mapping some mixer component on the APC40 (for example) through the Max for Live API wouldn't work without pressing the Pan or Send button on the APC40, which reset the component. This has been fixed.
* "goto live_set tracks 2 devices" in a set with one track produced id -1, which is wrong. Now it produces id 0.
* If the LOM id of the observer is persistent, the property of an observed LOM object is persistent, even if it is dynamically changed using a message.
* Max for Live devices that control the Application objects (e.g. live_app (live_app view)) or which get information about the Live version and document name (e.g. get_major_version (focus_view)) will work when loading the Set, without requiring user interaction.

Bugfixes

* Fixed a problem with nested Macro mappings when the range of a mapped ON/OFF switch, or of a selector switch (such as a filter type switch), is not at default values. In such a case, the right value would be displayed, but the wrong value would be used internally.

Note: with this fix, you will now hear what you see, although this may mean that previously saved Sets that contained the bug may sound different.

* Deleting time in the Arrangment View could delete crossfades in certain cases.
* When using an APC40 and Scratch Live, Scratch Live would sync to the APC but would not initially show the return tracks .
* If the VST plug-ins folder contained shorcuts/aliases to files in another location on disk, the folder would be rescanned each time Live starts. This has been fixed.
* When launching a scene with via Key/MIDI mapping or a control surface such as the APC40 while "Select on Launch" is enabled, the Master track became selected. This would result in the selected device switching to the device on the Master track. Now, launching a scene via remote control behaves the same as when launching with the mouse; the device selection doesn't change.
* Fixed a crash that could occur when clicking the status bar, while it displays "Media files are missing", and just after having adjusted a Macro knob.
* Fixed a crash that occurred when adding an audio clip, scrubbing in the clip detail view, and pressing Undo while the mouse was still down for scrubbing.
* Fixed a crash that could occur when switching between certain audio interfaces on a Mac
* updated Complex Pro libraries to prevent a potential crash
* fixed Transport button behavior for the Akai MPK61 and 88
* fixed a crash that could occur when opening very large Live Sets
* fixed a crash that could occur when a clip referencing a sample was in the clipboard and when pressing the Edit button (in the File Manager or Clip View) to set the sample offline and then on again
* Holding a note while recording a MIDI clip and stopping the transport while the note is held would result in a silent note during play back
* If a clip was in Gate Mode, releasing the trigger key within the launch quantization period would still launch the clip
* Fixed a bug that caused a clip in Gate launch mode to continue playing after clicking another clip for a very short time
* Fixed a bug in how MIDI effect Racks handle latency. Now chains compensate properly against each other

Improvements and feature changes
* Improvements to Amp presets including better folder organization, additional guitar and bass amp presets and various other changes.
* Improvements to sound quality in Drum Machines.
* Performance optimizations on many Rack presets.
* Many delay devices now use the "Fade" Delay Transition mode, to avoid clicks.
* All Latin Percussion sounds are additionally available as chromatically tuned Simpler presets.

Bugfixes
* Amp is now available in the trial version of Ableton Suite.
* Removed duplicate Amp presets.
* Fixed Hot-Swap behavior for a number of Session Drums and Drum Machines presets.
* Fixed a bug that prevented the use of soundcards with only one input on OS X.
* Fixed a crash that occurred when using a ReWire slave such as Reason and manipulating devices in the slave that were referred to by clips in Live.

Improvements and feature changes
* Support for The Bridge, our collaborative project with Serato. The Bridge is free for users of Live/Suite 8.
* Amp, an audio effect that models guitar amps and cabinets. Amp is free for Suite users.
* Some changes were made to the Help Pages regarding how to report a crash and how to contact support. When restarting Live after a crash, Live produces a file named "Ableton Crash Report... .alp", whereas choosing "Get Support.." in Live's Help menu produces a file named "Ableton Status Report... .alp".

Bugfixes
* Improved compatibility for Antares Harmony VST. Now the plugin works in Stereo mode only when inserted in a track, while previously its 5 channels were active in such a case.
* Fixed a bug that could prevent Live from deleting temporary Projects.
* Fixed a rare crash that could occur with a combination of control surface selected in the Preferences, Ableton devices moved from track to track, and then tracks moved to different positions.
* Fixed a crash that could occur after undoing the move of a track containing a clip into a group track, which occurred with a specific state of the Live Set.
* Fixed a crash that could occur when entering mapping mode while a Max for Live device was in the clipboard.
* Fixed a crash that occurred after triggering a 'stop slot' and recording outside the punch region.
* Fixed a crash happening after pressing Del (return to default) after editing the volume of at least two Rack chains at once.
* Fixed a crash that would happen while Live is slaved, and opening a Live Set containing a MIDI clip ready to Overdub, which would try to be triggered when loading the Set, before the undo history is ready.
* Fixed a bug that would create corrupt documents if the user uses 'Save a Copy' but overwrites the original Live Set, then tries to restore that Set after a crash. Now, overwriting the current Set using 'Save a Copy' does the same thing as 'Save'.
* Fixed a crash that occurred while remotely changing scenes while editing some clip property.
* Core Audio driver is now listening for external sample rate changes, on the Mac.
* Fixed a crash that could occur after undoing the pasting of an Instrument into an empty MIDI track. The crash could happen in other ways too, but that's the easiest to describe.
* In some cases Live could crash when loading a document that overcomes limitation (like a Live set containing Operator on a computer where Operator is not unlocked).
* Fixed a crash caused by a rounding error, causing some memory corruption
* It was previously not possible to map a track group slot when the group track was unfolded, because the selection spreads over the whole local scene. Now the selection changes upon entering map mode, or when existing it, allowing to map the slot, and restoring the correct selection when done.
* Fixed a crash that happened when moving a Max for Live device containing a "getpath" object to another track.
* Live could hang changing clip parameters while jumping in the song while recording.
* On some systems, Live is able to create Live packs that exceed 2 Gb, but could not read them. This is fixed by upgrading our packing Libraries.
* Fixed a crash that happened in rare cases (revealed by using The Bridge, but it is not directly related to it) when trying to insert a first warp marker in an audio recording.
* Fixed a crash happening when some MIDI targets where not available anymore but called. For example, it happened when having 2 MIDI clip selected in Session view, in a track containing at least a device, and then flattening the track.
* Fixed a crash happening when rebuilding the set from the Undo history, related to 3rd devices.
* Fixed a crash that occurred when trying to open a certain kind of corrupt document
* Disabled editing the value of a VST plug-in parameter via the computer keyboard (only in the Ableton view of the plugin, not in the plugin's own interface). The VST specification doesn't allow Live to set the value correctly.
* Fixed a crash that happened on a Mac whenever the number of channels for the opened audio interface would change. For example, changing the sample rate for some devices would implicitly change the number of inputs and/or outputs.
* Fixed the drawing of notes while recording a MIDI clip in the Arrangement view.
* Fixed many issues that caused memory corruption when using Complex Pro. A bug that made 192Khz files sound distorted when stretched with Complex Pro has also been corrected.
* Fixed the display of looped MIDI clips in the Arrangement, which was a regression due to a fix that made MIDI notes draw correctly while recording (viewtopic.php?f=25&t=149012)
* Fixed a crash that could occur when uninstalling a Live Pack and making the Library unavailable, by unplugging the external drive it is on, for example.
* Fixed crashes that could occur when using sample files that have a sample rate greater than 192KHz and set to Complex or Complex Pro.
* Fixed a crash that happened when using "dead keys" in message boxes, like pressing "z" when the "Do you want to save this Live set" dialog box was displayed.
* Fixed a crash which was triggered by moving a fader or knob on a MIDI controller while in MIDI learn mode, and quitting Live at the same time.
* Fixed a crash happening when having an incoming MIDI mapped message that would reach Live while loading a document. This had to do with the Undo history not yet being created, while the incoming message needed to access it.
* Fixed Japanese text input. It was not possible to rename tracks with Japanese characters, for example.

Bugfixes

Unwarped clips could be placed incorrectly after opening a Live Set, if the Set was saved after changing the global tempo without first confirming the change with the Enter key or by clicking somewhere else in the interface.

Fixed a visual bug that made MIDI clips entirely black while recording, but before the first note was input.

Fixed a crash when observing 'has_stop_button' of a Group Track Slot via M4L GroupTrackSlot.

Fixed a crash that occurred when loading a Group preset containing an AU plug-in that is missing.

Fixed a crash that could occur with clips warped in Beats mode, Transients and back-and-forth envelope settings, when the loop extends outside the sample data.

Fixed a bug where typing a tempo in the BPM field of a warped clip would give a slightly wrong number (i.e. you type "100" and "100.0001" gets entered," which led to some neutrality problems.

3rd party plug-in windows now always get the focus when clicked.

Blocked certain keys when a 3rd party plug-in window has the focus, such as the "Delete" and "Backspace" keys, which fixes the bug that would delete a plug-in or a track when pressing Delete/Backspace while editing a 3rd party plug-in in its own GUI.

Fixed a bug that would make a group slot lose its MIDI/Key mapping when moving the corresponding scene (viewtopic.php?f=25&t=140895)

Fixed a bug that prevented adding or removing the stop button of a group track slot while the group track is folded (viewtopic.php?f=25&t=140895)

Fixed a visual bug where a green overlay could be left orphaned in a 3rd party Ableton GUI

The Min or Max parameters in the mapping Browser, for mapped 3rd party plug-in parameters, could lose the focus as soon as they were touched. This made it impossible to edit them via the computer keyboard arrow keys.

The Ableton GUI of an AU plug-in would be empty after loading a native AU preset, for plug-ins having fewer than 32 parameters. In such a case, the GUI should be automatically populated.

Fixed a bug that prevented removing a parameter from the Ableton GUI of a 3rd party plu-gin while Configure mode is ON, if it was Macro-mapped.

Dragging a first warped clip in a non-empty Arrangement would sometimes set the tempo of the Live Set. The correct condition is that this should only happen if the Arrangement contains no clip at all.

It was not possible to click inside a multi-selection while in Key or MIDI map mode in order to change the selection and select only one of its constituents. This is now fixed.

Fixed another key handling problem for some plug-ins using a Cocoa view.

Fixed a bug where MIDI notes could hang if an AU plug-in was deactivated and then reactivated.

If the last note within the Loop brace, in a MIDI clip, overlapped the Loop end, selecting the loop brace and choosing "Duplicate" would duplicate the looped material's offset. Now duplication correctly duplicates the Loop length, at the correct position.

When an External Instrument was routed to a multi-timbral MIDI instrument, and that instrument or the containing track was moved, the routing would be reset to the default output. Now routings are correctly remembered.

Improved audio streaming performance for specific Live Sets with many audio files.

Corrected a bug that would make computer keyboard selection behave incorrectly after selecting a clip via remote control.

Fixed crash when mouse was pressed in the detail view before sample analysis finished.

Fixed crash when dragging MIDI from XLN's Addictive Drums.

Fixed a crash that occurred when zooming into a large waveform with an extreme zoom factor.

Fixed a bug that made Collision silent after deleting it and undoing.

Various other stability improvements

Improvements

Combination Mode is now active when multiple Akai APC40/20s are in use. This means that the topmost controller selected in your preferences will control tracks 1-8, the second controller selected will control tracks 9-16, and so on. When an APC40 and an APC20 are connected at the same time, the APC20's buttons will default to Track Selection, and its faders will default to volume.

Bugfixes

Fixed a bug that caused the Drum Machines LD Live Pack to not work in Live Intro.

Fixed a rare crash that could occur when deleting a Drum Rack pad.

Fixed a crash that could occur when moving a track with an automated parameter that is also MIDI mapped.

In very rare cases, Live would crash when running extremely loud signals through Overdrive.

Custom Min/Max values for MIDI- or key-mapped parameters on VST plug-ins would be lost after saving and reloading the Set.

When using clip envelopes to modulate the parameters of third-party plug-ins, the modulation range would be broken after saving and reloading the Set. (viewtopic.php?f=2&t=141378&start=0)

Some Sets which were saved in earlier versions of Live could not be opened in recent versions.

In certain cases, clips would not blink properly when using Follow Actions with launch quantization set to None. (viewtopic.php?f=25&t=140427)

Dragging a sample onto the waveform of an existing clip in Session view would reset the Launch settings of the clip.

In certain cases, launching a warped audio clip would play the unwarped version simultaneously.

In some cases, Gate launch mode for Session view clips would not behave correctly.

In certain cases, conflicting fade and volume envelopes would inadvertently mute audio clips in the Arrangement.

Occasionally, loud clicks could occur when using crossfades in the Arrangement.

When recording into the Arrangement, clicks could occur when "Create Fades on Clip Edges" was enabled.

In certain cases, clicks could occur when turning on the filter in Sampler/Simpler while holding a note.

The faders on the Mackie Control would not behave correctly when volume is automated in Live.

In certain cases, when recording a clip in Session View, the APC40 would not flash red to reflect the state of the clip. (viewtopic.php?f=25&t=133154)

Fixed a bug that would cause automation to always be overridden when using Ultra Analog. This would result in the Back to Arrangement button becoming active.

In some cases, the dialog box that should show trial options when starting Live without an authorization would be empty instead.

On OS X, missing media files without a file extension could not be replaced.

In certain cases, a dialog about temporary files would be shown even though there were no temporary files.

Live now ignores invalid MIDI data (for example, MIDI CC values that don't exist.)

Fixed a rare crash that occurred when opening documents while the mouse moves in certain areas.

Fixed a crash that occurred when dragging a Live Set which contains a sample that has been shortened outside of Live to the Session view, while this sample is already in use in the Arrangement view.

Fixed an issue in which configuring a third-party plug-in by clicking one of its parameters in the plug-in GUI while Configure is ON would not show the right value for the parameter in the Live GUI of the plug-in.

The APC 40 wouldn't always update its state properly when loading a new Live set.

Live could hang when undoing the deletion of a parameter mapping in the Live GUI of a 3rd party plug-in.

Fixed a crash that occurred when firing a scene while moving a Group Track.

We now ignore "non automatable" parameters for AU plug-ins, in terms of assigning them in the Live plug-in GUI.

Fixed a rare crash that could occur when loading a new song or quitting Live while the mouse hovered a Max for Live device.

Various other stability improvements

Bugfixes

Bugfixes:

A very short MIDI note at the beginning of a clip would not be audible. [6130]

Recording via 'Resampling' would not properly compensate latency. [6124]

Under certain conditions, it would be possible to get 2 Arranger tracks highlighted. [6144]

Using the Launchpad as control surface and additionally for manual mappings would not always work properly.

When installing Live Packs which have dependencies to other content, Live would show the corresponding message twice. [6153]

Using a Rex file could crash Live. [6157]

'lock control surface' function would not properly work in user remote scripts. [6064]

A particular Live set could not be loaded and would lead to a 'Invalid Product ID Error' message. [6165]

In the Arranger, punch In/Out would delay notes by the 'punch in time' in beats. [6167]

Using the pads of the Akai MPD18 would not work properly.

Having a Live set with particular Drum Racks could increase the CPU usage of the main thread, which would result in very slow graphical updates. [6181]

Installing a new Library from within a second running instance of Live could crash Live. [6171]

Certain operations like sample crop/reverse/replace would remove the tempo envelope. [6179]

Using Novation's Launchpad, when switching between Automap and Live control would not work properly.

Under certain conditions, editing or creating parameter automation would not work properly. [6188]

Playing a 32-bit audio file immediately after a 16-bit audio file could cause a click in the audio. [6152]

Moving the last track out of a track group onto a closed group track in the Arranger could crash Live. [6193]

In the Auto Pan device, switching shape to random would not show the 'Width' knob. [6192]

Loading a Max device would crash if Pluggo was already active.

It would not be possible to create a new Project in the File Browser if the root is set to 'Workspace'.

Fine tuning of macro knobs would not work via key modifier. [6180]

Starting clips via the Launchpad while changing parameters via mouse could crash Live. [6143]

Moving the mouse over a certain Sampler preset could crash Live. [6207]

Loading a Live set containing not yet authorized add-ons could crash Live. [6203]

Under certain conditions, fade creation would not work properly. [6195]

An Ableton preset of a third party plug-in would not change the On/Off mapping range. [5652]

Receiving an invalid parameter index from Max could crash Live.

Inverting a macro mapping range would not work properly. [6238]

Under certain conditions, extracting an existing groove from a clip would crash Live. [6235]

Having a Max device sending many blob changes during saving could crash Live.

A malformed database file would interrupt user interactions like renaming files, saving presets, recording, etc. [6230]

Having a particular Live set loaded and searching for media files could crash Live. [6241]

On Mac OS X, under certain conditions, making Live the foreground window could lead to a crash.

The context menu of a frozen clip would have enabled audio fades commands. [6253]

In the Arranger, changing the mixer properties like volume, pan etc. would not show the changed value in the status bar. [3238]

Having a multi selection of Arranger track and use the 'Show Automation' command would destroy the selection. [6243]

Choosing a custom VST directory within the preferences would not keep this new directory until the next start of Live if the required rescan leads to a crash. [6190]

On Mac OS X, duplicating a track with Fab Filter Twin 1+2 could crash Live. [6063]

The Looper display would use the wrong colour in 'play' mode. [6234]

Holding SHIFT + Space Bar would make the transport play button flicker. [6227]

The area to click on an Arranger clip would be too small by a few pixels. [6261]

Particular Live sets, especially with a lot of transient data, could not be loaded. [6263]

Pasting 3 unstretched and crossfaded Arranger clips could crash Live [6289]

Improvements:

Updated manuals

Updated Help Pages

Bugfixes:

Surface controller support for the Oxygen 3rd generation

Using the Axiom Pro as controller surface would not work properly with certain effects and instruments

Under certain conditions, a volume automation would not work properly [6005]

The mouse handling of certain Sampler parameters would not work properly [5961]

Improvements:

Updated manuals

Updated Help Pages

Control Surface support for Novation Launchpad

Several improvements for the AxiomPro Controllers

Bugfixes:

Using the double/halve tempo buttons of the Looper could introduce an audible offset [5857]

Playing MIDI could crash Live when multi-core support is enabled [5608]

If the slot button below a disabled Session clip has been removed, the disabled clip would not respect this and act as stop button [5872]

In the Arranger, auto scrolling would not work properly when dragging tracks [5865]

On Mac OS X, open the application menu would not close an open context menu [5768]

On Mac OS X, using a Remote SL and loading a particular Live set with a Fab Filter Twin 2 would crash Live

On Mac OS X, the Key stroke handling for AudioUnits using Cocoa views would not work properly

On Mac OS X 10.6.x, starting Live with a template set that contains audio clips, and with another CoreAudio client running at the same time (e.g. iTunes), would freeze Live. Also, changing sample rates in Live would not work properly

Replacing a Macro mapping with a Key mapping could crash Live [5913]

Return track header selection would not work properly [5677]

On Mac OS X, Audio Units, wrapped by Novation Automap, would not appear in the right folders [5752]

Setting an MTC start offset to a negative value would not show the value properly [5456]

Grabbing and moving the left edge of an Arranger loop while the loop start is out of the view would not behave properly [5216]

In the Arranger, scrolling would not work properly when dragging or moving tracks [5139]

Under certain conditions, the LFO of the Sampler would not work properly

Switching banks via remote script would not be indicated in the status bar [5969]

Switching on track-solo would not work properly in exclusive mode when switching via the APC controller [5838]

Unsupported multi channel audio files would crash Live [5995]

When exporting an video file, the resulting video file would grow on each export instead to be replaced [5996]

On Mac OS X, when typing the name of an existing file, but without the extension, Live would overwrite the existing file without asking for confirmation